About the Supposedly Devastating Impact of that Supposed Transgender Ban in the American Military

By Free Republic | Created at 2024-11-26 21:01:03 | Updated at 2024-11-28 20:05:27 1 day ago
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About the Supposedly Devastating Impact of that Supposed Transgender Ban in the American Military
Tell Me How This Ends ^ | 26 Nov, 2024 | Chris Bray

Posted on 11/26/2024 12:40:14 PM PST by MtnClimber

The news media is calmly warning that Donald Trump is planning to ban transgender servicemembers from the American military, which will absolutely gut the armed forces.

Sample claim, from Newsweek, quoting the leader of an LGBT advocacy nonprofit:

"Abruptly discharging 15,000-plus service members, especially given that the military's recruiting targets fell short by 41,000 recruits last year, adds administrative burdens to war fighting units.

"There would be a significant financial cost, as well as a loss of experience and leadership that will take possibly 20 years and billions of dollars to replace."

We’ll practically have no military left! It would be like a whole infantry division suddenly just vanishing: 15,000-plus transgendered service members.

You’re going to see this number a lot in the weeks ahead. The New Republic, today: “Donald Trump’s plan to ban transgender people from the military would have a devastating effect: At least 15,000 members would be forced to leave.”

That number comes from a 2018 report by the now-defunct Palm Center, a pro-LGBT independent research institute in California, which reached this conclusion: “Transgender troops make up 0.7% (seven-tenths of one percent) of the military (Active Component and Selected Reserve).” Their best guess about a total number: 14,707. The media is just rounding that number up to the next thousand.

The Palm Center…extrapolated a lot, let’s say, in good part by multiplying their guess about a percentage, derived from a grossly inadequate survey of a select number of active duty troops, times the total number of servicemembers. Page 4:....SNIP


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: wokeism
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1 posted on 11/26/2024 12:40:14 PM PST by MtnClimber


To: MtnClimber

I wonder what the jihadists think of our transgender military.


2 posted on 11/26/2024 12:40:27 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)


To: MtnClimber

the 15000 number struck me as high

not as a percentage of the military-less than 1 percent

but as a percentage of trans

are the trans drawn to the military to get their meds


3 posted on 11/26/2024 12:43:33 PM PST by joshua c


To: MtnClimber

Im gonna go with “This Would have no negative impact at all” for $500 Alex.


4 posted on 11/26/2024 12:43:44 PM PST by suasponte137


To: MtnClimber

...Abruptly discharging 15,000-plus service members...

Bull crap. I doubt that there's 15,000 trans people in the military. I'd be surprised if there was 1% that many.

5 posted on 11/26/2024 12:45:14 PM PST by econjack


To: MtnClimber

It’d be like complaining of taking the rotten apples out of the barrel.


6 posted on 11/26/2024 12:45:52 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)


To: suasponte137

The opposite is true. It would help recruitment a lot if these sick creeps got the boot


7 posted on 11/26/2024 12:46:28 PM PST by iamgalt


To: MtnClimber

“absolutely gut the armed forces”

At which point I checked to see if it was the BEE


8 posted on 11/26/2024 12:46:35 PM PST by Cold Heart


To: MtnClimber

Wonder way the socialist didn’t consider that when they got rid of the REAL men and women from the military?


9 posted on 11/26/2024 12:47:33 PM PST by Ronald77


To: MtnClimber

Getting rid of the trannies and woke crap will cause a surge in enlistments from NORMALS. The 45,000 recruitment shortfall will disappear within two years. Going back to “don’t ask don’t tell” would boost recruitment of NORMALS, too. Do that together with ending “Hate whitey” + ridding trannies + ending woke crap would see enlistment soar.

They are looking at the numbers the same way they look at tax revenues — i.e., there is no behavioral change. The leftists think if they TRIPLE tax rates that tax collections will also triple. But collections would plummet as people exit the workforce and find underground, off-the-books work.

The same is true for military strength. The leftists are not taking account of the huge moral boost that would accrue from a return to NORMALCY and an end to sanctioned perversions. I’d wager that the loss of 15,000 weirdos would be offset by an increase in enlistments four times that within a couple years.


10 posted on 11/26/2024 12:47:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)


To: MtnClimber

As of September 2023, reported active-duty troops included:

453,551 in the Army
332,322 in the Navy
318,698 in the Air Force
172,577 in the Marine Corps
8,879 in the Space Force.

I imagine that recruiting might be a bit easier in the future, too.

11 posted on 11/26/2024 12:48:14 PM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)


To: joshua c


To: MtnClimber

More than 15,000 normal males and females will join once trans DEI has ended.


13 posted on 11/26/2024 12:49:30 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)


How many are there?

"...it’s definitely somewhere between 29 and 15,000."

Oh, and that's 29 (as in, almost two and a half dozen), not 29,000...

14 posted on 11/26/2024 12:51:16 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")


To: MtnClimber

15000 trannies booted out will improve the readiness of the military. Trannies are fragile and spend a lot of time under medical care. They are not deployable. Same with flagrant homosexuals. We need what is probably not possible to attain now i.e. an all male universal draft that is separate from the active military. Unless War! happens soon the draft obligation should be 6 months of intensive training followed by 6 months that the draftees may not enlist. Then we will have a population of young men who no longer fear the unknown and when Uncle Sam calls, plenty of young men will likely enlist. The frantic opposition to the draft was because so many had deferments for one thing or another and and the rest feared that while they were in uniform for that traditional 2 years those Deferred would get the jump on them for careers and jobs. And most feared that with which they were unfamiliar.


15 posted on 11/26/2024 12:52:53 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe VWA\/)


To: econjack

There are currently 2,079,142 members of the military.

The current percentage of the population that identifies as “transgender” is .5%, or .005.

This would result in an estimate of 10,395 if the “averages” are applied. 15,000 sounds high, but if the government was paying for the surgery and medications…those who were transitioning may have self selected into the Military.

But, over estimating it by 50% seems a little “excessive.”


16 posted on 11/26/2024 12:53:27 PM PST by Vermont Lt


To: suasponte137

Im gonna go with “This Would have no negative impact at all” for $500 Alex.

My take is that mentally healthy people are avoiding enlistment precisely because the services have become a politically correct minefield, embracing with open arms the most disruptive and self-centered individuals ever allowed to flourish in any civilization. The Armed Forces will function much better without them.


To: MtnClimber

Mostly snicker. Actually enemies may never get to fight against the trannies when we do have some more combat adventures as most will be in medical treatment.


18 posted on 11/26/2024 12:55:38 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe vWA\/)


To: MtnClimber

“...We’ll practically have no military left!...”

“...Transgender troops make up 0.7% (seven-tenths of one percent) of the military...”

Uhhh.....Explain this to me, please....


19 posted on 11/26/2024 12:56:30 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)


To: MtnClimber

Think how many normal young men would enlist if all the wokeness was removed. Good riddance to the trannys at all levels.


20 posted on 11/26/2024 12:56:54 PM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)


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