Body language expert explains Nicole Kidman and Jodie Foster's intense conversation at 2025 Golden Globes

By Daily Mail (U.S.) | Created at 2025-01-06 06:36:57 | Updated at 2025-01-07 18:39:55 1 day ago
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Nicole Kidman and Jodie Foster were spotted having an intense conversation during the 2025 Golden Globe Awards ceremony on Sunday.

Kidman, 57, could be seen grasping Jodie's arms as the 62-year-old Silence Of The Lambs star leaned close to her.

The chat, which occurred the same night that Jodie won her fifth Golden Globe, puzzled fans on social media after the New York Times' awards season columnist Kyle Buchanan shared video of the strange interaction on X (formerly Twitter).

'Nicole Kidman is *locking in* to this intense conversation with Jodie Foster during the Golden Globes commercial break,' he captioned the clip, which appeared to have been shot from a video screen located inside the Beverly Hilton hotel, where comedian Nikki Glaser hosted the film and television awards show.

To get a better understanding of the leading ladies' fascinating dynamics, DailyMail.com checked in with body language expert Judi James for context.

According to James, Kidman and Foster's conversation showed significant 'signals of friendship' based on their expressions and physical contact.

Nicole Kidman, 57, and Jodie Foster, 62, perplexed fans when they were seen having an intense conversation in a clip shared to X on Sunday from the 2025 Golden Globe Awards in Beverly Hills

But body language expert Judi James shared her take on the shockingly intense discussing with DailyMail.com

However, she noted that there seemed to be 'something rather fierce and intense about their body language during their brief conversation.'

James explained that Foster might be 'accused of invading [Kidman's] social space' because of how aggressively she leaned over the Eyes Wide Shut actress, who was seated while Foster stood.

'[Foster is] combining the proximity with strong eye contact too, which, if it weren't a ritual between friends, as this seems to be, could suggest dominance or even conflict,' she said.

Kidman appeared to return the intensity by matching Foster's gaze and holding on to her upper arm, which seemed to indicate they were talking about an intense subject, due to the actresses' 'small shaking movements,' which seemed 'to be emphasizing their words to each other.'

Toward the end of the clip, Foster stands upright and appears to be ready to end the conversation and step away, but Kidman doesn't break eye contact and seems to hold onto her hand as she continues talking.

'Nicole actually seems to prolong the conversation, seeming to want to insist on her answer to whatever it was Jodie asked,' James clarified.

The body language expert also explained what it was about the conversation that so fascinated social media users.

'It's the contrast in branding and style that makes this ritual look odd though,' James clarified. 'Jodie is known for her tough interrogative roles, but Nicole has a much more ethereal, wafting, elegant vibe, making this intense, looming approach over her look like a mismatch of body language styles.'

According to James, Kidman and Foster's conversation showed significant 'signals of friendship' based on their expressions and contact. But there was 'something rather fierce and intense' about their connection

Foster appeared to 'invade' Kidman's space by leaning over her, which suggested 'dominance, but Kidman returned the eye contact to suggest that they were on equal footing

When Foster stood up, Kidman kept talking. 'Nicole actually seems to prolong the conversation, seeming to want to insist on her answer to whatever it was Jodie asked,' James clarified

James said it was the 'contrast' in speaking styles that fascinated fans. 'Jodie is known for her tough interrogative roles, but Nicole has a much more ethereal, wafting, elegant vibe, making this intense, looming approach ... look like a mismatch of body language styles'

Foster won best TV actress for True Detective: Night Country, marking her fifth Golden Globe. Nicole was nominated for best actress — drama for Babygirl but lost out to Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres who starred in I'm Still Here

GOLDEN GLOBES 2025 WINNERS: AT A GLANCE 

FILM

Best Film - Drama: The Brutalist

Best Film - Musical or Comedy: Emilia Pérez

Best Non-English Language Film: Emilia Pérez

Best Actress - Musical or Comedy: Demi Moore, The Substance

Best Supporting Actress - Musical or Comedy: Zoe Saldaña, Emilia Pérez

Best Actor - Drama: Adrien Brody, The Brutalist

Best Actress - Drama: Fernanda Torres, I'm Still Here

Cinematic And Box Office Achievement: Wicked

Best Actor - Musical or Comedy: Sebastian Stan, A Different Man

Best supporting Actor - Musical or Comedy: Kieran Culkin, A Real Pain

Emilia Perez led the way on the film side with four awards including Best Film - Musical or Comedy

So far, the stars haven't clarified what it was they were discussing in the audience.

Foster won for another of her 'tough interrogative roles' for True Detective: Night Country, which was the fourth season of the hit HBO mystery series and the first to not feature creator Nic Pizzolatto as showrunner.

Kidman was also nominated in the best actress in a drama category for her lead role in the buzzy erotic film Babygirl, though she lost out to a surprise winner, the Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres who starred in I'm Still Here.

Zoe Saldaña led Emilia Perez to top honors, while Demi Moore became a first-time winner at 62 at the Golden Globes 2025 on Sunday night, where Shōgun and The Brutalist were also big winners.

Zoe, 46, earned Best Supporting Actress — Musical or Comedy early in the night, before the Netflix film earned the top prize, Best Film — Musical or Comedy on a night which featured a star-studded red carpet that took place at The Beverly Hilton hotel in Los Angeles

Demi sent a powerful message during her emotional acceptance speech as she earned Best Actress in Musical or Comedy for The Substance. 

When it came to the film drama categories, it was The Brutalist which earned top prize Best Film — Drama, as well as a Best Actor — Drama gong for Adrien Brody.

In television, it was Shōgun that swept the drama categories, including Best TV Series and individual honors for Anna Sawai, Hiroyuki Sanada and Tadanobu Asano. 

 Zoe Saldaña led Emilia Perez to top honors while Demi Moore became a first time winner at 62 at the Golden Globes 2025 on Sunday night where Shōgun and The Brutalist were also big winners

When it came to the film drama categories it was The Brutalist which earned top prize Best Film - Drama and a Best Actor - Drama gong for Adrien Brody

When it came to television, it was Shōgun which swept the drama categories including Best TV Series and individual honors for Anna Sawai (second from left), Hiroyuki Sanada (second from right), and Tadanobu Asano (right)

However, the most shocking moment certainly came when Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres triumphed over A-listers Angelina Jolie , Nicole Kidman, and Pamela Anderson in the Best Actress - Drama for I'm Still Here

However, the most shocking moment certainly came when Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres triumphed over A-listers Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman, and Pamela Anderson in the Best Actress — Drama category for I'm Still Here.

Emilia Perez earned the most awards of the night with four but truly had it's crowning moment at the end of the night  film earned Best Film - Musical or Comedy over Anora, Challengers, A Real Pain, The Substance, and Wicked.

Emilia Perez actress Karla Sofía Gascón — who is a trans woman — gave a powerful speech to conclude the event as she said: 'Thank you so much. I chose these colors tonight because I have a message. The light always wins over darkness. 

'I have a lot of things to say to you, because you can maybe put us in jail, you can beat us up, but you never can take away our soul, our existence, our identity,' she said. 'I want to say to you, raise your voice. And say, I am who I am. Not who you are. Thank you so much.'

In Emilia Perez, Zoe plays Rita Mora Castro, who is a lawyer, as the film is centered around four remarkable women pursuing their individual happiness in Mexico.

Cartel leader Emilia (played by Gascón) enlists Rita, an unappreciated lawyer, to help fake her death so that she can finally live authentically as her true self. 

The 2025 Golden Globe Awards kicked off in fine form as Zoe upset Ariana Grande to take home the first award of the night.

The 46-year-old actress was emotional as she earned Best Supporting Female Actor for her work in Emilia Perez.

Emilia Perez had it's crowning moment at the end of the night as the film earned Best Film - Musical or Comedy over Anora, Challengers, A Real Pain, The Substance, and Wicked as star Karla Sofia Gascon can be seen accepting the honor

Leading actress Karla Sofia Gascon - who is a trans woman - gave a powerful speech to conclude the event as she said: 'Thank you so much. I chose these colors tonight because I have a message. The light always wins over darkness

The 2025 Golden Globe Awards kicked off in fine form as Zoe Saldaña upset Ariana Grande to take home the first award of the night

In Emilia Perez, Zoe (pictured left) plays Rita Mora Castro who is a lawyer as the film is centered around four remarkable women pursuing their individual happiness in Mexico; she is shown alongside Karla Sofia Gascon

Demi Moore was left shocked as she earned Best Actress in Musical or Comedy for The Substance at the Golden Globes 2025

She triumphed over an impressive field that included the aforementioned Ariana Grande for Wicked, in addition to Selena Gomez for Emilia Pérez, Felicity Jones for The Brutalist, Margaret Qualley for The Substance and Isabella Rossellini for Conclave. 

Meanwhile, Demi was left shocked as she won Best Actress in Musical or Comedy for The Substance. 

The 62-year-old star gave a riveting speech about the journey it took her to get to this crowning achievement.

She won over an impressive field including: Amy Adams for Nightbitch, Cynthia Erivo for Wicked, Karla Sofía Gascón for Emilia Pérez, Mikey Madison for Anora and Zendaya for Challengers.

Demi began her acceptance speech by saying: 'Oh, wow! I really wasn't expecting that. I'm just in shock right now. I've been doing this a long time, like, over 45 years, and this is the first time I've ever won anything as an actor. And I am just so humbled and so grateful. 

'30 years ago I had a producer tell me that I was a popcorn actress, and at that time I made that mean that this is not something I was allowed to have. That I could do movies that were successful and made a lot of money, but that I couldn't be acknowledged, and I bought in and I believed that. That corroded me over time, to the point where I thought a few years ago that maybe this was it, maybe I was complete, maybe I had done what I was supposed to do.'

GOLDEN GLOBES 2025 WINNERS

FILM 

Best Film - Drama

The Brutalist - WINNER

A Complete Unknown

Conclave

Dune: Part Two

Nickel Boys

September 5

Best Film - Musical or Comedy

Anora

Challengers

Emilia Pérez - WINNER

A Real Pain

The Substance

Wicked

Emilia Perez earned top honor Best Film - Musical or Comedy

Best Non-English Language Film

All We Imagine as Light

Emilia Pérez - WINNER

The Girl with the Needle

I'm Still Here

The Seed of the Sacred Fig

Vermiglio

Best Animated Film

Flow - WINNER

Inside Out 2

Memoir of a Snail

Moana 2

Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl

The Wild Robot

Cinematic And Box Office Achievement

Alien: Romulus

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

Deadpool & Wolverine

Gladiator II

Inside Out 2

Twisters

Wicked - WINNER

The Wild Robot

Best Actress - Drama

Pamela Anderson, The Last Showgirl

Angelina Jolie, Maria

Nicole Kidman, Babygirl

Tilda Swinton, The Room Next Door

Fernanda Torres, I'm Still Here - WINNER

Kate Winslet, Lee

Best Actor - Drama

Adrien Brody, The Brutalist - WINNER

Timothée Chalamet, A Complete Unknown

Daniel Craig, Queer

Colman Domingo, Sing Sing

Ralph Fiennes, Conclave

Sebastian Stan, The Apprentice 

Adrien Brody was recognized in the Best Actor - Drama category for The Brutalist

Best Actress - Musical or Comedy

Amy Adams, Nightbitch

Cynthia Erivo, Wicked

Karla Sofía Gascón, Emilia Pérez

Mikey Madison, Anora

Demi Moore, The Substance - WINNER

Zendaya, Challengers

Best Actor - Musical or Comedy

Jesse Eisenberg, A Real Pain

Hugh Grant, Heretic

Gabriel LaBelle, Saturday Night

Jesse Plemons, Kinds of Kindness

Glen Powell, Hit Man

Sebastian Stan, A Different Man - WINNER

Best Supporting Actress - Musical or Comedy

Ariana Grande, Wicked

Selena Gomez, Emilia Pérez

Felicity Jones, The Brutalist

Margaret Qualley, The Substance

Isabella Rossellini, Conclave

Zoe Saldaña, Emilia Pérez - WINNER

Zoe Saldana was crowned Best Supporting Actress - Musical or Comedy for Emilia Perez

Best supporting Actor - Musical or Comedy

Yura Borisov, Anora

Kieran Culkin, A Real Pain - WINNER

Edward Norton, A Complete Unknown

Guy Pearce, The Brutalist

Jeremy Strong, The Apprentice

Denzel Washington, Gladiator II

Best director

Jacques Audiard, Emilia Pérez

Sean Baker, Anora

Edward Berger, Conclave

Brady Corbet, The Brutalist - WINNER

Coralie Fargeat, The Substance

Payal Kapadia, All We Imagine as Light

Best screenplay

Jacques Audiard, Emilia Pérez

Sean Baker, Anora

Brady Corbet, Mona Fastvold, The Brutalist

Jesse Eisenberg, A Real Pain

Coralie Fargeat, The Substance

Peter Straughan, Conclave - WINNER

Best Original Song

Beautiful That Way, The Last Showgirl

Compress/Repress, Challengers

El Mal, Emilia Pérez - WINNER

Forbidden Road, Better Man

Kiss The Sky, The Wild Robot

Mi Camino, Emilia Pérez

Best Original Film Score

Conclave

The Brutalist

The Wild Robot

Emilia Pérez

Challengers - WINNER

Dune: Part Two

TV  

Best TV Series - Drama

The Diplomat

Mr. and Mrs. Smith

Shōgun - WINNER

Squid Game

Slow Horses

The Day of the Jackal

Shōgun was the most honored television series with four including coveted Best TV Series - Drama

Best TV Series - Comedy or Musical

Abbott Elementary

The Bear

The Gentlemen

Hacks - WINNER

Nobody Wants This

Only Murders in the Building

Best Limited TV Series

Baby Reindeer - WINNER

Disclaimer

Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story

The Penguin

Ripley

True Detective: Night Country

Best TV Actress - Drama

Kathy Bates, Matlock

Emma D'Arcy, House of the Dragon

Maya Erskine, Mr. and Mrs. Smith

Keira Knightley, Black Doves

Anna Sawai, Shōgun - WINNER

Keri Russell, The Diplomat

Best TV Actor – Drama

Donald Glover, Mr. and Mrs. Smith

Jake Gyllenhaal, Presumed Innocent

Gary Oldman, Slow Horses

Eddie Redmayne, The Day of the Jackal

Hiroyuki Sanada, Shōgun - WINNER

Billy Bob Thornton, Landman (Paramount+)

Best TV Actress - Comedy or Musical

Kristen Bell, Nobody Wants This

Quinta Brunson, Abbott Elementary

Ayo Edebiri, The Bear

Selena Gomez, Only Murders in the Building

Kathryn Hahn, Agatha All Along

Jean Smart, Hacks - WINNER

Jean Smart earned Best TV Actress - Comedy or Musical for Hacks

Best TV Actor - Comedy or Musical

Adam Brody, Nobody Wants This

Ted Danson, A Man on the Inside

Steve Martin, Only Murders in the Building

Jason Segel, Shrinking

Martin Short, Only Murders in the Building

Jeremy Allen White, The Bear - WINNER

Best TV Actress - Limited Series

Cate Blanchett, Disclaimer

Jodie Foster, True Detective: Night Country - WINNER

Cristin Milioti, The Penguin

Sofía Vergara, Griselda

Naomi Watts, Feud: Capote vs. The Swans

Kate Winslet, The Regime

Best TV Actor - Limited Series

Colin Farrell, The Penguin - WINNER

Richard Gadd, Baby Reindeer

Kevin Kline, Disclaimer

Cooper Koch, Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story

Ewan McGregor, A Gentleman in Moscow

Andrew Scott, Ripley

Best Supporting Actress - TV

Liza Colón-Zayas, The Bear

Hannah Einbinder, Hacks

Dakota Fanning, Ripley

Jessica Gunning, Baby Reindeer - WINNER

Allison Janney, The Diplomat

Kali Reis, True Detective: Night Country

Jessica Gunning took home Best Supporting Actress - TV for her incredible work on Baby Reindeer

Best Supporting Actor - TV

Tadanobu Asano, Shōgun - WINNER

Javier Bardem, Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story

Harrison Ford, Shrinking

Jack Lowden, Slow Horses

Diego Luna, La Maquina

Ebon Moss-Bachrach, The Bear

Best TV Stand-Up Comedy Performance

Jamie Foxx, What Had Happened Was

Nikki Glaser, Someday You'll Die

Seth Meyers, Dad Man Walking

Adam Sandler, Love You

Ali Wong, Single Lady - WINNER

Ramy Youssef, More Feelings

Ali Wong beat out Nikki Glaser for Best TV Stand-Up Comedy Performance

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