Jeffries shuts down raising the debt ceiling

By Free Republic | Created at 2024-12-19 19:19:47 | Updated at 2024-12-28 01:33:41 1 week ago
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Jeffries shuts down raising the debt ceiling
Politico (Yeah, I know) ^ | December 19, 2001 | Nicholas Wu and Daniella Diaz

Posted on 12/19/2024 9:53:38 AM PST by Red Badger

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries appeared to shut down Republicans’ push to raise the debt ceiling in a Thursday morning social media post.

“GOP extremists want House Democrats to raise the debt ceiling so that House Republicans can lower the amount of your Social Security check. Hard pass,” he posted on his Bluesky account.

Jeffries' statement — pointedly not posted on Elon Musk’s X — comes as Republicans are floating the idea for a new stopgap measure to fund the government that would include disaster aid and raising the debt ceiling.

And behind closed doors, leaders projected unity and urged the caucus to hold the line.

In a meeting with the entire Democratic Caucus Thursday morning, Jeffries quoted President John F. Kennedy, telling members: “Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate,” according to two people familiar with the remarks, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal party dynamics.

He also asked his caucus who his negotiating partner would be, and asked if he should be calling Musk.

“This caucus has shown ’grit and grace’ and that’s exactly what we’ll need going into this,” House Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-Mass.) told attendees, according to one of the people familiar.

With the clock ticking down towards a government shutdown, the House minority isn’t showing any signs of bailing out their GOP counterparts. Republicans torpedoed a bipartisan deal to fund the government through March and provide billions in disaster and farm relief — along with a slew of other lawmaker priorities — after Musk and President-elect Donald Trump signaled their opposition.

Further complicating the matter, Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance said they wanted to inject the debt ceiling into the debate, and it’s not clear whether a new debt ceiling agreement could be negotiated before the Friday shutdown deadline.

“I wish Speaker Johnson would grow a fucking spine, because it's pathetic,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), the top Rules Committee Democrat.

But some Democrats signaled they might back a new stopgap funding plan to keep the government open, depending on the details.

“Democrats will vote to keep the government open, and if it means a clean CR, I think that's what we'll do,” said Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-Calif.).


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1 posted on 12/19/2024 9:53:38 AM PST by Red Badger


To: Red Badger

I swear I don’t even know what they are talking about at this point.
How could raising the debt ceiling lower social security payments?


2 posted on 12/19/2024 9:56:01 AM PST by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)


To: Red Badger

Friendly suggestion to speaker Johnson. It’s Christmas. Call a recess until January 3rd. Everyone go home. Don’t worry, be happy.


3 posted on 12/19/2024 9:58:38 AM PST by Enterprise (These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)


To: Red Badger

4 posted on 12/19/2024 9:58:58 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)


To: Red Badger

pelosi broke her hip

and jeffries found his voice


5 posted on 12/19/2024 10:00:04 AM PST by joshua c


To: Red Badger

Oh look, the Party of the elites and wealthy (Democrat Party) is suddenly pretending to care about social security. So cute.


6 posted on 12/19/2024 10:07:12 AM PST by FlipWilson


To: Williams

I was wondering the same thing...


7 posted on 12/19/2024 10:08:39 AM PST by abigkahuna


To: Red Badger

I see no reason to raise the debt ceiling. If money is tight, we can just fire a boatload of federal workers.



To: ClearCase_guy

Every FREEPER in the past would hate raising the debt ceiling. Suddenly they are cheerleaders for it. Twilight zone territory.


9 posted on 12/19/2024 10:15:31 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )


To: Red Badger

Now cut welfare entitlements. it should be a state issue, not federal.


10 posted on 12/19/2024 10:19:27 AM PST by Salvavida (NS)


To: rktman

It’s not stupidity, it is much worse. It is purposeful deceit and misdirection. Everything is a calculation. The rats know the media establishment will blame the GOP for a “shutdown”. It has always worked but it might not this time.


11 posted on 12/19/2024 10:20:22 AM PST by iamgalt


To: Red Badger

I posted about this back on April 18, 2024:


Regarding shutdowns, you must remember several things:
  1. Mitch McConnell has vowed to NEVER allow a government shutdown. The Senate is his Preciousssssss, and he would do anything to keep a government shutdown from happening.
    • See: 8/7/2022 - Trump says McConnell ‘got played like a fiddle’ on Democrats spending bill Former President Trump laid into Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Sunday after Senate Democrats passed their long-awaited health care, tax and climate package.

      “Mitch McConnell got played like a fiddle with the vote today by the Senate Democrats,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

      “First he gave them the fake Infrastructure Bill, then Guns, never used the Debt Ceiling for negotiating purposes (gave it away for NOTHING!), and now this,” Trump said. “Mitch doesn’t have a clue – he is sooo bad for the Republican Party!”

    • See: 7/9/2022 - ‘We Got Our Ass Kicked’: John Kennedy Laments Senate Republican Loss to Democrats on CHIPS, Reconciliation Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) said on Thursday that Senate Republicans got tricked into passing a semiconductor bill after believing that a Democrat reconciliation bill was dead.

      While Republicans were split on the merits of the legislation, most Republicans, including House Republican leadership, did not want to pass the CHIPS legislation if Democrats were to pursue a reconciliation bill to pass climate change, Obamacare, and other leftist priorities.

      The same day that the Senate passed the CHIPS bill, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) announced a deal on the Inflation Reduction Act, a bill that would aim to reduce the deficit, raise taxes, and boost climate change and Obamacare spending.

      Announcing the deal immediately after Senate Republicans backed the CHIPS bill left many GOP lawmakers with egg on their faces.

      "We got our ass kicked. It’s just that simple. Looks to me like we got rinky-doo’d. That’s a Louisiana word for 'screwed.' And we got our ass kicked. That’s the way my people back home see it," Kennedy said...

      McConnell also lost to Schumer on a debt ceiling fight in 2021, which led to a deal to temporarily create a carveout for the legislative filibuster. One former senior GOP aide said the deal was to save McConnell’s "ego."

  2. Knowing #1, Pelosi and Schumer always scheme to stall Republicans in the House and Senate in order to create debt ceiling crises because they know that McConnell is the weak link in that chain.

    I don't know why McCarthy took so long in the House to get his spending bills worked out before slamming his side with it as the debt ceiling crisis loomed. Perhaps he was counting on Pelosi's promise to "always stand by him?" Perhaps he didn't see how he was being manipulated into wasting time over the summer in order to create the debt ceiling crisis that Democrats would then exploit in the Senate?

  3. Can't you see how Johnson is being manipulated into the same trap by Democrats? They drag out and delay in the House until deadlines loom, and then rely on McConnell in the Senate to react as he's been conditioned to. That's why McConnell was pressuring Johnson to comply with the Senate-side bill over Johnson's House bill.
  4. Can't you see how things might be different if our side coordinated between the two chambers, compared notes, told each other what the Democrats are doing on their side of the aisle in their respective chambers?

    Because you know that's what Pelosi and Schumer are doing. It's why our side is always caught by surprise -- because our side in the Senate thinks the House is beneath them. That's why our side thinks it has to be the Senate bill that "fixes" what the peons in the House did.

And THAT's why Johnson is in the predicament that he's in right now.

Look up the Reconciliation procedure to see why Democrats push so hard for single omnibus bills.

Democrats can't control the vote on separate budget bills from the House because they can't get enough votes for cloture in the Senate. To get around that, they force everything into single omnibus bills that they can push through the reconciliation process that only requires a simple majority in the Senate to pass, but they can only do it once a year per revenue, spending, and debt ceiling bill.

The longer that Senate Democrats fail to act on House bills, the shorter the time becomes to pass a budget or hit the debt ceiling. Democrats and the LAAP-dog media always blame Republicans for "shutting down the government" saying that Republicans won't send them something that will pass in the Senate.

This puts pressure on the House to either send the Senate what Democrats want, or Democrats will use reconciliation to amend one massive omnibus spending bill via reconciliation and send it back to the House, again blaming them for a government shutdown if they don't pass the Senate bill.

The limit of one spending, one revenue, and one debt ceiling bill in the Senate makes the Democrats strategize how to use this streamlined process for maximum impact for Democrats. That's where the brinksmanship comes in. They can take separate revenue bills from the House and amend them together with Democrat pet budget items into one massive bill that only requires a simple majority in the Senate to pass, and then force the House to accept the Democrat bill or shut down the government (or Ukraine will die, or the Israeli hostages will dies...).

See this article from earlier today: Chuck Schumer brags to Senators about Mike Johnson giving Dems everything they wanted on Ukraine, foreign aid: report

Excerpt:

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer bragged on the Senate floor on Wednesday about how House Speaker Mike Johnson gave into Democratic demands in foreign aid packages.

Human Events' Jack Posobiec said he heard from a senior Republican official that Schumer "was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages."


Keep in mind that the Democrats have NOT used their 2024 debt ceiling reconciliation bill yet, and the clock is ticking until January 3 when Republicans take over the Senate. Of course Jeffries is angry that this CR bill is being stopped. Schumer doesn't want the debt ceiling raised for 2025, because he'd lose the one sledgehammer that he's been so effective at using.

And they almost got Johnson to fall for it again, too, until Vivek, Elon, and President Trump stepped in to stop it.

-PJ

12 posted on 12/19/2024 10:22:11 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))


To: iamgalt

Of course the GOP gets the blame—but it won’t matter anyway.

Think about what is going to happen the next few years.

The howling from the left is going to be every day, twenty four seven.

The only folks who will even remember a government shutdown will be policy wonks with twelve followers on X.

Lol.


13 posted on 12/19/2024 10:22:34 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)


To: joshua c

Jeffries has a functional majority for most matters that come before the House - he certainly has the votes to block almost anything the Trump faction of the GOP would want to do.


14 posted on 12/19/2024 10:24:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)


To: iamgalt

I hear the rinos are hard at work trying to get something.


15 posted on 12/19/2024 10:25:21 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)


To: Enterprise

Hear, hear!

Let people go home to their families for Christmas and restart the negotiations after the holiday season.


16 posted on 12/19/2024 10:26:32 AM PST by SeanS


To: Jim Noble

That is exactly why a government shut down right now is excellent.

No deal is much better than a bad deal.


17 posted on 12/19/2024 10:28:10 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)


To: Williams

How could raising the debt ceiling lower social security payments?

Lol. I was thinking that too.

Also, why are THE REPUBLICANS trying to raise the debt ceiling and THE DEMOCRATS are against it???

What in the world is going on here?

18 posted on 12/19/2024 10:29:04 AM PST by nitzy (We all thought that WW3 would be fought with WMDs. Instead it is being fought with NGOs.)


To: Red Badger

They are moving to Pedo Sky so they can lie without repercussions.


19 posted on 12/19/2024 10:31:01 AM PST by roving (Deplorable MAGA Garbage )


To: Williams

“I swear I don’t even know what they are talking about at this point. How could raising the debt ceiling lower social security payments?”

You can’t see it? Raising the ceiling increases the area the drones can operate causing a decrease in social security maximum payment for firefighters. Trust me, it’s all Trump’s and Musk’s fault.



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