Russia creates plan for division of Ukraine and may offer it to USA - Media

Looks about right. Putin has tried relentlessly to NOT take Ukrainian territory. All the Ukes had to do was quit killing ethnic Russians and play by Minsk rules. Nope, NATO forced Putin to take back the four oblasts to stop the Uke war crimes.

All the Ukes had to do was to abide by the negotiated Istanbul peace accords and Ukraine would have gotten everything but Crimea back. Nope, the Ukes continued the war and have suffered accordingly.

Putin will stop today with what he has and a neutral Ukraine. Nope, DC doubles down again and by doing so doubles down on Uke territorial losses.

That third part is going to get messy. After Russia has done all the heavy lifting, the NATO fratricidal allied jackals to the west of current Ukraine have many old scores to settle with the Ukes.

Good luck selling all that nonsense to Trump, Rooski.

>> Nope, the Ukes continued the war

ukes — an alias for NATO & NGOs

According to sources from Interfax-Ukraine in the intelligence community

Unless I hear it directly from Putin or Lavrov, I don't believe a single word from Ukraine's "intelligence community." That's what I've learned the last three years.

Trump is not going to go for that. He’ll give Ukraine more weapons, even long-range missiles until Putin is ready to negotiate.

Here’s my alternative plan.

Putin takes his wanna be commie butt out of Ukraine, and then pays Ukraine reparations for all the damage it has done.

Trump has strong back channels with Putin, against the DSC. Next up Trump, balls in Trump's Court.

Good news finally. Ukraine belongs in the bosom of Mother Russia.

It’ll be a done deal BEFORE 1/20/25. You think Trump will start WWIII to retake the Russian city of Odessa just to give it back to Blackrock? Maybe you and your fellow travelers think that might be a good idea but Trump and our fellow travelers don’t.

Looks about right. Putin has tried relentlessly to NOT take Ukrainian territory. All the Ukes had to do was quit killing ethnic Russians and play by Minsk rules.

Where are you getting these Russian propaganda talking points? Putin has been trying his best to take Ukrainian territory. The story of Ukraine killing ethnic Russians is pure myth. Ukraine passed the law required by Minsk that would have given autonomy to Donbas and was in the process of conducting the required referendum. It was Russia who violated Minsk by not withdrawing its forces, by not handing over the border to Ukraine, and by blocking Ukraine's referendum, all required by Minsk.

All the Ukes had to do was to abide by the negotiated Istanbul peace accords and Ukraine would have gotten everything but Crimea back.

There was no negotiated agreement at Istanbul, Russia's demands were too high. Nor had Russia agreed to withdraw from the territory that it occupied.

Putin will stop today with what he has and a neutral Ukraine.

Putin rejected this proposal by Turkey. Putin has publicly declared that he will start negotiations only after Ukraine withdraws from the rest of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzia.

Good news finally. Ukraine belongs in the bosom of Mother Russia.

And it is that attitude, not NATO membership or any the host of other rationalizations that Russia has given, which is driving this war. Unfortunately for Russia and its fanboys, Ukrainians are no longer willing to be under Russian subjugation. Even if Putin could force this ridiculous dream scenario, all it would do would be to give Russia an unending guerrilla war that would bleed Russia dry. The days of the Russian Empire are over.